| Posted: 20 Jul 2008 23:55 |
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What's your opinion on this movie?
I just saw it, and boy I could go on forever on this movie!
First the bad. It was a little long for my taste. I was thinking it should have cut off somewhere after the Joker was arrested. After that I guess I was starting to get hungry for food.
Harvey Dent shouldn't have went bad by the character I saw on the screen. I just didn't buy it. I kept expecting to see him literally turn evil right on the screen, but it was more like he woke up in a hospital bed the next day and boom, instant evil.
Batman jumping off a building to save the girl is normal, but in this movie I didn't get how the girl in this movie lived after it appeared as though Batman and the girl just bamm, hit a car with nothing slowing them down. Was Batman's cape slowing them down?
Batman had a chance to run over the Joker and he went around him. Holllllly Cow!
Good
The Joker was downright scary. Man what a freak! Nothing is scarier than a villain who isn't afraid to die.
The scene that ends the Bat tank's life! Awesome action!
All the actors did a great job in this film not just Heath Ledger.
Loved seeing Batman punch the Joker!
Two-face looked perfect. It was a heck of a lot better than the old Two-face make up job.
Miscellaneous
I used to complain when Batman movies had silly costumes and strangely fantasy like buildings. All that has been fixed but I kept asking my self though is this movie too serious. Why so serious?
Political
How does anybody miss this in the movie? There is obviously some political symbolism going on here big time. It's like Batman is representing George Bush when he fights on to the end the terrorist threat represented by the Joker. Even though he starts to become very unpopular with the crowd.
The remarks in the movie about what did Wayne expect when he spat in the face of the bad guys in Gotham. The speeches about how it's not easy fighting evil, darkest before dawn. It was all symbolism for the war on terror and Iraq.
Batman puts a giant tap on everybody's cell phone to catch the Joker as some have feared Bush planned to do. Well the Bush plan is a little different but the symbolism is obviously there.
What do you all think? Is Nolan the director giving Bush praise comparing him to Batman, or trying to say something else entirely?
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All in all it was a good movie. A very smart movie, but a little long, and definitely not for kids. I think a lot of kids are going to be bored. It may be too intense and too hard to follow for anyone under 13. I felt like I was drawn into another universe watching this movie. It was a very scary world. I could go on and on, but I'd like to know what the rest of you guys out there thought.
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| Posted: 21 Jul 2008 01:36 |
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i loved it all. ithought the running time was perfect. any shorter and there would have been no room to breathe between any of the major events the joker kept hammering home. ledger did possibly the best acting job i've ever seen. even when he wasn't wearing makeup i would have never guessed it was him. seriously, i never saw ledger through the acting, if a kid thinks of ledger's normal movies, he won't make the connection between the guy who played the joker being the same actor. it was uncanny. how about the twists too? shockers to say the least. perhaps the best superhero movie of all time in my opinion, and definitely the best movie of the year, probably followed by iron man, speed racer, and in bruges.
oh, and of course batman didn't hit the joker, he's not a murderer. crossing that line would mean the joker won. plus, i think he had some sort of insight to the gordon situation. and where bataman saves rachel form falling, i think he broke her fall with his body which was protected by his suit and was eased by the car roof. i also thought i saw some sort of bat grapple technique there, but too much to remember in such an action packed movie, i have ot see it again to even know what i saw.
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movie has beaten spidey 3 for best opening weekend at 155 million and best opening day ever in movie history.
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of course batman didn't hit the joker, he's not a murderer. He could have maimed him at least. He didn't think twice about letting Ras Al Ghul die in Batman Begins, but the Joker. Always the Joker. I mean if the Joker is stupid enough to stand
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movie has beaten spidey 3 for best opening weekend at 155 million and best opening day ever in movie history.
Batman has beat Spidey unless you count the number of tickets sold. It's closer than a Presidential election.
from yahoo
http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080721/121664334000.html
At 2007's average price of $6.88, "Spider-Man 3" sold 21.96 million tickets over opening weekend. Media By Numbers estimates today's average movie prices at $7.08, which means "The Dark Knight" would have sold 21.94 million tickets.
I couldn't get my mind off this movie. I swear I think I might of had dreams about it.
The more I think about the Dark Knight the more I want to see it again just to soak it all in again. I don't know it's like being hit by a truck. The movie is so serious and dramatic that it knocks you for a loop.
As far as my personal favorites other than Dark Knight this year it goes to the Hulk, Indian Jones, Journey to the Center of the Earth and then Iron Man and Dark Knight tie I guess.
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 Have to say the movie was excellent except for the fact that Harvey Dent seemed too easily swayed to the darkside so to speak. Of course if I had been horribly disfigured and my woman blown up by a mad man, who knows if I would take drastic measures for revenge or not?
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| Posted: 22 Jul 2008 14:47 |
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I just didn't get why he let the Joker go while he's standing right there and goes after Gordon who actually tried to save his girl.
In my mind there wasn't good enough of a connection created to justify his anger towards the good guys.
The more this movie soaks in to my brain though the more I want to see it again. I guess I'll be buying the DVD so I can analyze it much further.
You know something I thought was unique about the movie. This is the first time Batman was on screen without the batcave. He was like in a penthouse which actually happened in the comics way back in the 70's I believe.
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| Posted: 22 Jul 2008 15:29 |
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The official tally for Dark Knight was actually more than previously estimated. $158.3 million for the weekend according to Variety. http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117989210.html?categoryid=13&cs=1
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tim im with you i think. i think the movie was good but batman not killing the joker only becomes absurd!
the guy is CONSTANTLY murdering people. frankly, i think batman is guilty of doing something wrong by NOT killing him. hes indirectly responsible for all of the deaths that the joker caused! who cares if the joker THINKS he wins. kill the turkey to save others!
batmans obsession with law and rules is clouding his mind so that he cant see true justice. as cool as it was to watch him beat down the joker in that room, he came off as impotent because he always ties his hands together by obsessing over "the rules".
meanwhile the joker runs around murdering and causing mayhem. this whole notion of "kill = bad" and "not kill = good" is a childish and frustrating construct made up of second rate philosophers and reflects the american obsession with law over righteousness.
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Originally, I think the idea of a superhero never killing was good. It was just to send a right message to kids, but back then comic characters weren't written as realistically as the Dark Knight. It's like you say it's almost a sin not to kill the Joker. He's like a plague. He has no remorse only the desire to kill and kill again.
This has been something that has bugged me not only in the movie but the comics as well. Perhaps the real reason Batman can never kill the Joker is not his morals but the fact the Joker has to keep coming back story after story.
I think it would be more realistic if Batman almost kills the Joker every time. Like I could see if Batman hit him with the motorcycle in the Dark Knight , and then as the Joker lay there helpless Batman turns him over to the authorities. Heroes don't tend to attack their enemies while their down after all. But for the Batman to risk his life avoiding the Joker...that's just silly.
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right, i was complaining about it at work and some guy told me to relax and enjoy the ride! lol! i cant, i enjoy fantasy as much as the next guy, but the fantasy has to be logical to some extent too. and i just dont see the morality in allowing a murderer to continually escape and keep committing murders.
now, i like superman more than batman, but he has even less of an excuse. he doesnt even have to kill lex luthor, he just needs to break into his office and kidnap the guy and drop him onto a deserted island. he can bring him some food once a month. thatll keep him out of trouble and superman wont have to deal with the whole guilty conscience thing.
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| Posted: 25 Jul 2008 14:44 |
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You know when Superman and Batman first came out they were a lot less nice to criminals. There's an old black and white episode of Superman with George Reeves where Superman leaves two criminals on a mountain top who know his secret, if I remember right. He promises to be back but the two crooks try to escape and fall to their deaths.
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| Posted: 25 Jul 2008 16:11 |
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haha. sounds like they had it coming! no im kidding. i really am not like one of those boneheads who have a cavalier attitude towards life, even if its just fiction. i want the good guys to try and save life. however, if someone continually refuses to stop practicing homicide i think its time to whack em for the good of all. thats all im looking to see out of the superheroes. kind of makes you respect the punisher a little more, too bad hes such a boring character.
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I agree. I wouldn't want superheroes going around killing people for every little crime, but sometimes it just seems unrealistic to have Batman going out of his way to avoid killing a mass murderer like the Joker. After all he's a superhero not some kind of super saint. It goes against common sense.
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| Posted: 26 Jul 2008 11:28 Last Edited By: captainunload |
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i dont even think a saint would do it. God Himself destroys people. if He didnt ultimately destroy the devil, for example, would we call that good?
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| Posted: 26 Jul 2008 18:11 |
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Hmm...but just to present the other side of the argument one might say that doing something that lies only in God's duties might be wrong as well. Thus the arguments against cloning and so forth.
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2008 11:33 |
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well, i know what youre saying. but if youre going to take a Biblical view of God, for example, then capital punishment is advocated even for people to carryout. if you dont have something like the Bible to go by, its harder to say what activities are for God only.
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| Posted: 29 Jul 2008 14:54 |
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I agree in that in a case of self defense the Joker would be gone. I mean if he was shooting at me and I was riding that motorcycle, Joker would have been history. Well I'd have knocked him for a loop anyway.
I think, speaking Biblically, the Bible promotes self defense and capital punishment, but if it's not self defense then it has to be left up to the organized government to determine that punishment.
I guess I'm speaking of the old cliche that one shouldn't take the law into their own hands. One one hand Batman does, but when it comes to life he simply will not kill even in cases of self defense.
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| Posted: 31 Jul 2008 14:42 |
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Frustrating that Joker never ends up on a crashing train for us to find out.
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| Posted: 06 Aug 2008 10:33 |
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well he did, in self defense knock him off the roof and then go out of the way to save him with his bat lasso. so, thats kind of more than he did for liam neeson
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What do you think about some fan boys going on about going to see the Dark Knight multiple times just so the Dark Knight can beat the Titanic.
I wish they would have went to see the Hulk multiple times. Me I go one time, and then buy the DVD. I love it when comic movies make money, but I can't see going in debt so a movie can go higher in a box office record do you?
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| Posted: 08 Aug 2008 20:25 Last Edited By: captainunload |
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i wouldnt do it. i almsot never see a movie more than once at theaters. and though batman was good, i think sitting through it a second time so soon after seeing it once would be boring.
i thought batman already beat titanic? if not, i think id like to see just about anything break its record. even if it was Alf: The Musical.
on a different note, how do i put a picture up?
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| Posted: 09 Aug 2008 00:35 Last Edited By: Tim |
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First tell me what you know about putting images on a message board.
I do recommend uploading images to our gallery to use on the board.
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i know nothing about how to put the image on the board here. and i have quite a few images id be happy to upload.
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Well let me give a quick run down. We got the site into different categories basically. The gallery where you can upload images is pretty simple, but you need to register a user name and pass for it like you did for the board.
Once you get images uploaded, to add a image to a board comment you just put the image address in the image box that pops up after the hit the image link above the Post your reply box.
To get the image address just right click on the image and hit properties.
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i saw batman twice because it was so amazing, but i had to wait a couple of days because it was so intense. i would love for it to beat titanic but it probably won't. it's in the high 400s now so that last 100 mill will be tough. i'd like to see it on the big screen a third time, maybe when it goes to the cheap seat theaters in a month or two.
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sounds kind of hard, uploading an image, maybe ill try to figure it out one of these days. thanks tim.
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| Posted: 20 Aug 2008 15:30 Last Edited By: Tim |
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i would love for it to beat titanic but it probably won't. No but it's going to go down as one of the biggest movies of all time.
It's biggest problem I see is overcoming the number of tickets sold. When you adjust for inflation Titanic and Star Wars were way up there like over a billion.
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i agree with the way you ranked the batmans' comic dude.
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gave ghul a chance by saving him on the mountain.
