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Why, you don't like Spider-Man?
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| Posted: 10 Sep 2008 06:59 |
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He personally doesn't want to see them. I think they should come out with them and those who want to see it will see it and those who don't, wont.
But I want to see it. __________________
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| Posted: 10 Sep 2008 14:43 |
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I definitely want to see more Spidey movies. The way I see it they've barely scratched the surface. I still remember the days when the only live action Spiderman was that 70's TV Show that only lasted a few episodes and the Electric Company version.
Back then there was so much prejudice against superheroes CBS actually canceled the Spider-man show not because of the ratings, but because they didn't want to be known as the superhero network.
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Quote: I definitely want to see more Spidey movies. The way I see it they've barely scratched the surface. I still remember the days when the only live action Spiderman was that 70's TV Show that only lasted a few episodes and the Electric Company version. "That 70's show"? the actual show, or the spider man show?
Anyway, spidey is too popular, shows. comics, movies and souveneirs, what's next?
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| Posted: 11 Sep 2008 14:16 |
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The 70's Spider-man show.
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| Posted: 12 Sep 2008 14:41 |
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Quote: The 70's Spider-man show
Ah, I wonder how cheesy that was!
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| Posted: 12 Sep 2008 15:02 |
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It's been so long since I saw it I don't remember. I do remember it lacked a lot in characterization. The only scenes I remember liking that much were when he was Spider-Man. I had a lot more patience waiting for the Hulk transformations.
Still I remember really getting excited to watch those few episodes.
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Quote: It's been so long since I saw it I don't remember. I do remember it lacked a lot in characterization. The only scenes I remember liking that much were when he was Spider-Man. I had a lot more patience waiting for the Hulk transformations Just firgured this out, see those wristbands? Those must've been the ropes shooting out to look like he's web slinging, LOL.
Hulk was more you could watch a few times a day, you can tell in a few minutes he's going to turn into the Hulk, so there.
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| Posted: 13 Sep 2008 14:40 |
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Bill Bixby was a good actor too. It was interesting to watch him act even as a kid.
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Quote: Bill Bixby was a good actor too. It was interesting to watch him act even as a kid.
Eh, he was good...not good enough *Gasp* Just kiddin' he was pretty good for an old show
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| Posted: 20 Sep 2008 19:27 |
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Without the old shows the new ones would have never got made .
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| Posted: 22 Sep 2008 01:53 |
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The older shows sometimes have better stories than the new ones.
But as for movies: The old films are always better--with only one exception...Comic book movies. Right?
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| Posted: 22 Sep 2008 14:26 |
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Comic book movies do tend to progress each time. It's the special effects and better appreciation from the creative team.
Of course I still look at the old Superman movie with Christopher Reeve as the standard for all superhero movies. Even though Superman Returns improved on the effects and stuff it still just didn't have that certain something. It felt a little hollow I guess. All flash and no heart.
Like Spider-Man the movie it had a lot of heart in it.
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Quote: Without the old shows the new ones would have never got made Oh yeah, right, right.
Quote: Of course I still look at the old Superman movie with Christopher Reeve as the standard for all superhero movies. Even though Superman Returns improved on the effects and stuff it still just didn't have that certain something. It felt a little hollow I guess. All flash and no heart.
Eh, did not like the old Superman movies...
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| Posted: 23 Sep 2008 14:33 |
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Maybe you started out watching Superman 4 which is the worst of the Christopher Reeve movies.
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| Posted: 23 Sep 2008 23:29 |
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I never saw that one, been wanting to though.
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Quote: Maybe you started out watching Superman 4 which is the worst of the Christopher Reeve movies
Old?, Ah, that's every time, Spediey 5 is probaly going to be crap...every time they make a best selling moving they make more and more, then they get upsest with it, then they go overlaod.
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| Posted: 24 Sep 2008 14:20 |
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Maybe they've learned from their mistakes. Spider-Man makes too much money for them to ever do what they did to Superman 4.
They cut the budget right in the middle of making it. The film looked choppy like a fan made trailer.
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Quote: They cut the budget right in the middle of making it. The film looked choppy like a fan made trailer.
I thought about this Cap movie, he not well known as much as there other hero fans, it's going to make as much money as Iron Man, Cap won't make as much. If it does, it will make a sequel.
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Although Raimi did an awesome job with Spiderman 1 and 2, I think there needs to be many changes if there are to be a 4 and 5.
1. Spiderman 3 sucked bad because there was too much going on with too many characters and too much crying.
2. They cannot have two villains in the 4th like they are planning (Carnage and Lizard) there will be too much going on and we need a centralized focus.
3. Take ideas from the original comics like Raimi did with 1 and 2. They don't have to be word for word but this is what made 3 a disaster.
3a. No emo Peter...that never existed and cut out the whole dance scene...it is lame...
3b. Eddie Brock was not some scrawny bitc* like Topher Grace, he was a gym rat. The whole idea of Venom vs. Spiderman was strength vs. speed not Spiderman vs dark Spiderman.
4. Just gonna throw this out there and I am going to be pounded for this one but...
4a. James Franco and Tobey Maguire should have switched roles. Tobey Maguire still seems like a nerd, eventually Peter Parker transitions from nerd to suave badass. As we saw in 3, Maguire plays the role of a bitc* perfectly which is what Harry was all along. Franco also has the lanky build that Spiderman had and can play nerd and badass(See Annapolis).
4b. Kirsten Dunst sucks as Mary Jane. Mary Jane was a knockout and knew she was a knockout. Dunst is neither of these.
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Quote: Spiderman 3 sucked bad I wouldn't go that far. I think it was as good as 2. It couldn't have been better if they would have focused entirely on the Sandman though. That's the part of the movie I really cared about. I just didn't care about Venom or the dark suit while watching the movie. At least while I was watching it for like the 3rd or 4th time. I got it in on DVD.
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| Posted: 30 Sep 2008 00:39 |
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Spidey 3 was good, they killed off Venom too quick, and they didn't even get into a fight that was in the comics, sandman was forgiven to quick. All the enemies were at the end, so the director had wrap it up.
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J.K. Simmons Returning for Spider-Man 4
Source:MTV
January 18, 2009
Although it's not really news that Spider-Man 4 will start shooting in 2010 as this report at MTV highlights (director Sam Raimi himself said previously that filming would start by March of 2010), it is good to hear that J.K. Simmons will be returning:
The fourth film in the blockbuster "Spider-Man" franchise will begin shooting in 2010, actor J.K. Simmons told MTV News at Sundance, revealing that he'll continue in the role of Daily Bugle publisher J. Jonah Jameson. "I saw Sam [Raimi] at his Christmas party."
The fourth installment is expected to hit theaters in May of 2011. In October of '08, it was announced that playwright David Lindsay-Abaire (upcoming Inkheart) would write the script. James Vanderbilt wrote an earlier draft.
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Check this clip out of Sam Raimi discussing the possibility of Morbius in Spider-Man 4...
Morbius in SM4??
Gotta say, didn't see this coming... interesting though.
Jack with FEARnet
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| Posted: 04 Jun 2009 14:38 |
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Say Morbius would be a great villain. He was one of my favorites from the old 70's comics. I didn't like what they did with the hand suction cups on the cartoons, but he was still cool even with that.
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I posted a review about this when I first heard it:
In any case my new review or thoughts is for not something that has come out, but for something in process.
Spider-Man 4
While I was not a fan of the 3rd installment of the series, I believe that if it wasn't for the graphics and action sequences, I'd have never watched at all.
In Spider-Man 2 and 3, a character was subtly put into Peter's life. Dr. Curt Conners. A professor at Empire State University (ESU) and a leading scientific mind in the field of Neogeneics. The same field of work that changed a little spider Peter knows all to well. Throughout the comic book universe, Spider-Man frequently goes to Conners for help relating in unstable mutations of the unnatural sort (sorry X-Men) including his own disease when he mutated into Man-Spider. Conner's main line of work is using neogenics to re-grow human limbs. As in the comics and movie, he only has his left arm. He lost the right one early in his career during WWII. While acting as a doctor, the camp was ambushed and explosion caused his arm to be amputated.
The Lizard
Conner's fascination with reptiles and their ability to grow back lost limbs most likely was spun (sorry) from his terrible experiences with an amputee. Desperately, he tried a new type of technology called the neogenic recombinator (yes, that is techno babble) which helped him gain back his lost limb by infusing reptile DNA into his own. Unfortunately, this infusion didn't go as planned (if it did, there'd be no giant lizard loose on Manhattan--and we can't have all that peace and quiet down there can we?). But seriously, the technology caused him to become half man and half lizard. His scientific brain always at odds with the primitive reptile part of his brain. Most of the time, he's a raging beast--but there have been some occasions where his scientific mind has control.
Back to the main point. This is naturally the villain (or help villain: (in comic movie terms, a villain who becomes a friend to aid in a bigger dilemma)) we'd want to see in Spider-Man 4. (This is proof as I've researched the fan boards)
But no. Sam Raimi, the genius that he is, what's ANOTHER vampire on the big screen. Michael Morbius. Way to go Raimi. Way. To. Go.
Don’t get me wrong, Morbius would be awesome to see, but I think it’s just too soon. Morbius' nickname is "The Living Vampire". He was originally an award winning chemist from Greece who attempted to cure himself of a rare blood disease using vampire bats and...I think it was shock therapy? Anyways it made the condition worse and resulted in his physical appearance of the picture below. He has many symptoms of vampires including the need to feed on blood and strong aversion to sunlight. But those two things are it. He has no other strengths or weakness that a normal vampire (oxymoron) has. To make up for it, his other powers include the ability to glide for short distances and can bend inhumanly to fit through smaller spaces like a mouse.
Whether or not Morbius is a villain is still debatable, at times his need to find a cure out rules his judgment. There are other times where he aids other heroes including Spider-Man in capturing known criminals.
Either way, Morbius has not been hyped at all and trying to fit his entire story into 1 movie would take up the entire time--no doubt they'd try to add another character which would, like Spider-Man 3, make the movie worse.
Other rumors indicate that the Sinister Six (a group of super villains to which the roster has drastically changed over the years, some of the better known ones include Doc Ock, Sandman, Vulture, Mysterio, Electro, and Kraven the Hunter, Hobgoblin, and Rhino (all of which I could go into more detail later about if you want)). This, in my personal opinion would make a great storyline by itself--unfortunately Doc Ock and Sandman are two key figures and they’ve already been used in the movies.
Finally there's always the thought of Madame Web with the Beyonder, and the multitude of universes each with their own type of Spider-Man in an all out war against evi--ok I'm going too far. __________________
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Good points. I guess I'm just going on the fact that as a kid I really enjoyed the Morbius stories a lot more than the Lizard stories. I just really want to see Morbius vs Spider-man.
Like you said Morbius story might be kind of long and take up too much time away from Spider-man. I think it would be neat if they made a Morbius movie first with a Army of Darkness feel to it and then brought him into Spider-man 4.
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Or they could go with the Lizard in Spiderman 4 and introduce Michael Morbius still in human form but looking for a cure and keep him in the background like they have with Dr. Connors.
This would at least tell part of his story so that he could be the villain for Spidey 5 where at the beginning of the movie he turns himself into the living vampire __________________
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exactly midnight, i see a morbius story as a spider-man 5 after they've gone into the neo geneics with the lizard __________________
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| Posted: 05 Jun 2009 23:31 |
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Only problem I have with that is I'm a very impatient man. I guess we'll need a Morbius movie, and two Spider-man movies in less than one year to make me happy.
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