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 "Chuck vs. the Fat Lady" 
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Comic Book Super Heroes Forum / SCI-FI / TV SCI-FI / Chuck / "Chuck vs. the Fat Lady"
Posted:  17 Nov 2008 18:27
Monday November 17 episode

"Chuck vs. the Fat Lady"

Chuck and girlfriend Jill go rogue in a puzzling quest to uncover double agents. (Jordana Brewster and Tony Hale guest star.)

Posted:  18 Nov 2008 05:41
DON'T READ if you haven't watched it yet:

So Jill's a spy, eh? Well I knew something was going to happen to end the Chuck-Jill romance. I figured they wanted to keep it between Chuck and Sarah only. Man in this world everybody's a spy, huh? The one thing I didn't get was the title of the show. Where did "the Fat Lady" come from?

I wonder how long Chuck's going to be able to keep all of this from Morgan. You think he'll find out that something's up?
Posted:  18 Nov 2008 15:00
Morgan will find out eventually.

I think the fat lady is in reference to a lady opera singer.

I started guessing Jill was a spy somewhere around the middle of the show. When that bad guy showed up out of nowhere at that little gas station, it seemed awfully suspicious. Like he had been tipped off.
Posted:  19 Nov 2008 03:59
I actually didn't suspect untill the end where she and Chuck were in the bedroom, and it kept flashing back to Sarah and Casey looking at that file. When it started showing the faces of the Fulcrum agents, I said to myself, "Jill is going to be the last one they show."

So I guess Jill did a pretty good job of fooling Chuck--and me! Nothing about her behavior gave it away, or at least to me anyway. I'm going to assume that the reason they're making Chuck's girl out to be a spy is to hurt him even further, and bring him down even more. Poor Chuck. Looks like they were trying to toture Sarah too in last night's episode. Poor Sarah. But oh well. I guess all tv characters have to be tragic.
Posted:  19 Nov 2008 15:11
The reason I think I guessed it so easy is from all the TV shows I've watched over the years. After a while you tend to notice plot points that have been done somewhere before.

No story is ever completely new just remixed.
Posted:  19 Nov 2008 23:42
Yeah, but I woulda thought that not everything would be so sterotyped. It'd be nice to see a totally original plot once in a while.
Posted:  19 Nov 2008 23:44
Yeah, but even in the most original stories there's always a element or two that can be found somewhere else.
Posted:  20 Nov 2008 01:00
Now that I think about it, didn't this same plot that we're discussing, not only happen in other shows, but also in a previous episode?
Posted:  20 Nov 2008 01:03
I don't know about it happening on Chuck.

Did you watch the Christian Slater show, My Own Worst Enemy? That show is getting good. Terminator was good too this week. It had a time paradox which I love junk like that.
Posted:  20 Nov 2008 01:50
Time paradox?

No I never watched neither of those shows. But I guess its too late now unless there are reruns.

Yeah, I thought it did happen on Chuck. He met a girl, he liked her, trusted her, and she turned out to be a spy.
Posted:  20 Nov 2008 16:11
It might have happened now that I read it again. My memory is swiss cheese sometimes. I can remember things that happened when I was 10 sometimes better than something that happened yesterday. Especially true with comics. I recognize comics I had as a kid instantly but comics I bought yesterday I'll end up having duplicates because I didn't recognize them.


Terminator time paradox was this. John's uncle theorized that his girlfriend also from the future was from a different future than his because she had different experiences than he did. Apparently his presence had begun to change the future.
Posted:  21 Nov 2008 04:00   Last Edited By: Rick Jones
Yeah I get what you mean about forgetting things. I can remember events that occurred on tv, on film, or in a comic book very vividly sometimes, but also I can forget events that have happened to me earlier on the day. Heck I don't even remember what I had for lunch today.

Oh cool. I don't know much about that show at all. Except that its about the boy whom Arnold protected in the first two films.
Posted:  21 Nov 2008 15:36
You know a big Terminator movie is coming out this summer I think it is or next with Christian Bale playing that boy grown up, John Connor.
Posted:  22 Nov 2008 01:04
I heard about it. I still haven't seen #3 yet.
Posted:  22 Nov 2008 15:52
Really I got 3 on dvd, but you know the show seems to ignore 3 and takes up after 2. Of course in 3 the whole world get blown up.
Posted:  22 Nov 2008 19:34
I guess I need to watch more movies.
Posted:  23 Nov 2008 00:52
I watch a lot of movies because I don't really go anywhere at night.
Posted:  23 Nov 2008 01:10
At night is when I watch most of my tv. Don't get a chance during the afternoon.
Posted:  23 Nov 2008 20:20
I'm always working on the computer in the afternoon. Then it's the gym, and then I get to watch TV.
Posted:  23 Nov 2008 20:26
I don't have a certain routine. I do all three of those things, but in a mixed up order (but on the weekends only).

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